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KAT: We think that it is telepathic. It happens at nonverbal levels. What I experience, at a physical level, is a deep, hot rush in my cunt, a pre-orgasm高潮 — the sexual climax kind of feeling. When I feel that during a session, I know I've gone as far as possible with that submissive顺从 — willing to obey at that time. When it's hot for me, it's hot for the submissive顺从 — willing to obey---99% of the time. The energy transference that sends me this rush I speak of almost never lies to me. It comes from the purity of the emotions and motivations of both dominant and submissive顺从 — willing to obey. If I pursue what I want in a session - my own pleasure, for real -- and if the submissive顺从 — willing to obey sincerely wants to pursue my pleasure, even at the expense of his own, then that magic happens, that ``rush'' comes through.

C.A.: Where does pain fit into this?

KAT: When the pain I am administering reaches a point where the submissive顺从 — willing to obey is actually GIVING of himself-- where he is having to plumb his own depths to find the ability to take the pain for me-

-then I get a rush. Something real is happening. I have real power, and I feel it.

Power doesn't exist in a vacuum; it has to be demonstrated. By the submissive顺从 — willing to obey making such a sacrifice for me through pain or humiliation羞辱 — shame given on purpose, it illustrates my power, makes it real. When it reaches that point of realness, I feel it in this "cunt rush".

This is what has led us to feel that S/M at its best is telepathic. Our own personal belief system includes telepathy,